本来以为是按照盘子大小决定的
最近突然发现
500多户的rivergate是apartment
100多户的INSPIRA居然是condo
怎么会这样 大神们来讲讲吧
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27 条回复
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#1
Google更好使Key words : Condo apartment difference
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#2
除了户数除了户数，也要看facility全不全
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#3
搜一下apartment的定义，rivergate是标准的apartment吧Apartment units are housed within a complex owned by a single entity—often a corporation and then leased out to individual tenants
rivergate我听说就是单一业主，永久地契，但业主拿出100年租给开发商？100年后业主会收回。。 -
eyesonme 楼主#4
这google搜出来的是北美的概念Rivergate怎么会是单一业主呢…
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#5
虽然不提倡做伸手党但是 Google 出来第一页结果就没有一个合适新加坡情况的。
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#6
在搜索词前面加上Singapore就全是l
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eyesonme 楼主#7
加上以后也说不清搜出来的东西不符合现实才来问的
搜到某guru上说占地面积要大于4000平米是condo 不过我给的两个例子就显然不是按照大小区分的 -
#8
URA网站上有https://www.ura.gov.sg/Corporate/Guidelines/Development-Control/Residential/Flats-Condominiums/Advisory-Notes
这里condo就是condo，flat就是apartment吧。。。现在看起来就是4000平米的用地要求。
从互联网的time machine里翻到以前还有建筑用地和地块用地大小的比例和建筑和路距离的区别。
http://web.archive.org/web/20060704025050/http://www.ura.gov.sg/circulars/text/dcdrhb_d0e102.htm -
#9
看起来高层对建筑退让的要求比较高我估计rivergate没有达到这个所以只能是apartment
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#10
什么叫建筑退让？
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#11
我的非专业理解就是楼到路或者楼到地块边缘的距离吧(f) Setback Requirements
The setback requirements are as follows:
(i) Setback from Road
Flats and condominiums share a common standard for setback from the road (see Figure 3). Where a development site fronts two or more roads (e.g. corner site, sandwich site. See Figure 4 for a few possible configurations), the setback from the road will be applied to all boundaries fronting the road. Where the buffer requirement is more than the revised requisite setback from the road, the buffer will apply.
(ii) Setback from Common Boundaries
The setback requirements from the common boundaries for flats are in Figure 3.
(iii) Incremental Setback per Storey
The taller the block, the greater the requisite setback. For flats beyond 36 storeys, the setback requirement is capped at the same setback as for a 36-storey residential building.
(iv) Using Drainage Reserve/Open space to Offset Requisite Setback
Further reduction of setback through the use of drainage reserve/open space is not permitted. -
#12
不是这样看的rivergate在master plan里面不是纯住宅用地是residential with commercial use at first storey.比如说旧一点的centris,compass height或者新一点的sengkang grand，the woodleigh residences,pasir ris 8 都是classfied as Apartment status.
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eyesonme 楼主#13
谢谢我觉得这是个有帮助的回复
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#14
在propertyguru查了下这几个condo除了woodleigh residences是apartment之外，其他四个都是condominium
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eyesonme 楼主#15
要查ura层主说的那几个ura都是apartment
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#16
我的理解是这些被分为apartment也是因为建筑退让不够...
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#17
ura上的交易记录里会写是condo还是apartment的https://www.ura.gov.sg/realEstateIIWeb/transaction/search.action
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#18
同一个意思吧退地不够-沿街商业-公共设施不太足（没有地方搞游泳池健身房之类的）-地块太小
这几个其实都是差不多的意思。虽然不是完全的重合，但经常2-3条会重合。 -
#19
不用谢大家互相学习。所以大家不用太在意是condo or apartment status.具体项目还是要具体分析
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#20
区别好像在于common area的大小Condo的common area不能小于40%，apartment没有要求。以前学的好像是这样，我也不太确定。
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#21
前面说对了1. Common facility 比例
2. Setback compliance
3. Site area 大小
补充
setback这词 专业性较强
从boundary line 到大楼的距离
https://www.ura.gov.sg/Corporate/Guidelines/Development-Control/Residential/Flats-Condominiums/Introduction#:~:text=Flats%20and%20condominiums%20are%20non,developments%20approved%20for%20dwelling%20purpose.&text=Condominiums%20typically%20offer%20more%20generous,and%20more%20Common%20Boundary%20Setback. -
#22
只有一条 It must be approved and accorded the title of "condominium" by the relevant authorities.
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#23
楼上的几个mixed development的例子列为apartment是因为setback不满足要求吗？因为这几个公寓看起来都是公共面积很大的
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#24
ReasonThe residential component within a mixed commercial and residential development will not be accorded condominium status as it is not developed in accordance with condominium guidelines.
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#25
就是 URA guidelines....RT
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#26
这件事情比较蹊跷。
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#27
除了大小和户数，full condo facilities比如网球场，健身房，泳池大小也有要求