请问各位老司机一个问题

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我和家人在一个两车道和四车道的丁字路口过马路,穿过两车道的马路。那个路口没有红绿灯,没有斑马线,但是人行道是直接修到马路边上的,明显是允许行人过马路,大家也都是从那个位置过马路的。我和家人开始过马路的时候,那车还在主路的远处,等我已经到了对面的时候,它开过来左转要上两车道的路,我家人在后面差两三步的距离,那个司机开到很近的距离后突然轰喇叭,把家里老人吓了一跳。

以前一直在那边过马路,都是主动让车的,没车的时候才过,即使有车过来了,人家也是等个2,3秒的时间,从来没碰到这么垃圾的司机近距离突然轰喇叭。请问各位老司机这种路口行人和司机相遇的时候应该怎么处理,有没有什么具体规则?车牌号我已经记下来了,LTA的网站也查过车型了,应该没错,是不是可以向LTA投诉?

31 条回复
  • QQMM
    #1

    没有人行道没有红绿灯不是不应该过路么。。。

  • HX3000 楼主
    #2

    住宅区附近两车道的小路有很多位置修了人行道坡道直接对准马路的 ,应该就是让行人过路的,不然为什么这么修,而且那种小路基本都没斑马线的

  • BurberryQ
    #3

    好像你理亏没有红绿灯没有斑马线,人家让你是情分不让也是没有错

  • #4

    支持lz 下次直接直接把司机拽出来怼

  • QQMM
    #5

    我觉得可以发信要求lta加斑马线或者红绿灯啊我有朋友feedback过类似的事情,如果真这样有了斑马线或者红绿灯是更安全的

  • HX3000 楼主
    #6

    小区附近这样的路段有不少如果全上红绿灯估计不行,但是不知道为什么没有画斑马线,有些地方连路中间的隔离礅都拆除就是让人过马路的。
    既然允许行人过马路,LTA难道对这种情况没有什么说明吗

  • HX3000 楼主
    #7

    我们过马路的时候,车根本就还在远处,也没有打转向灯我已经过了马路了,我家人都快走到对面了,车才开到路口

  • QQMM
    #8

    不懂这种地方对行人过路的要求或者行人是否优先有个斑马线至少会好安全一些

  • HX3000 楼主
    #9

    我觉得LTA应该有规则的不然这种路口如果发生车和人相撞的事故,总得有个判断依据吧

  • yydy
    #10

    遇到这样不礼让的司机只能心理咒他一百遍但还是lz不在理,没有斑马线没有交通灯不可以乱穿马路。你说的那些行人道修到路边啦什么的我都懂,但... 如果发生事故就是lz的错。

  • BurberryQ
    #11

    可能是想提醒你们不能这么过马路没有斑马线没有红绿灯你估计只能心里默默骂他几句了

  • #12

    小区里的路都没有灯,没有线
    谁该让谁?

  • #13

    楼主为啥认定行人可以过?

  • 991ms
    #14

    小区我无条件让人即使人走在路中间,我也是跟着,不能鸣笛,不能勉强超

  • 991ms
    #15

    还遇到过斑马线不让行的司机要不是当时还带着孩子,非把这孙子从车里面拉出来教育一下。
    客观来说,当时过马路的行人有点多,作为排头车,等的时间确实有点长,但是这不是理由,斑马线前,尤其是左转路口那种闪黄灯的路口,车辆无条件让人。

  • Kitekite
    #16

    还遇到过有行人走在双向车道的中间线。是一共四车道,也在两个小区中间。我当时吓着了,真想horn她,后来想想算啦,自己换到靠边的道好了,别吓着她。但是不觉得这样的做法是傻的吗?出事了,肯定是她受伤,不是车受伤啊……
    楼主,强烈建议你不要这样走了。老人的视力未必有你好,行动又慢,还是走红绿灯吧。如果有了孩子,孩子的判断力更差,但是他们会效仿你。
    觉得不方便,就给LTA写信,有作用的

  • Erencie
    #17

    行人有绝对的优先权我开车的时候都是能让行人就尽量让,自己每次开车都会预留足够时间这样不用赶。
    但是说真的,生命是自己的,行人在马路边行走是最脆弱的,不要把自己的安全寄希望于某个陌生人司机的素养。

  • juliana
    #18

    我的理解:这样的路口行人可以过马路,但是车辆优先。如果行人优先应该就是画斑马线了。
    作为行人,这种路口我是让车先行,看清楚附近没有车才快速通过。
    作为司机,像楼上所说任何时候都是要让行人的,不管谁优先行人总是弱者要小心避让。按喇叭催行人或者表示抱怨那是不够礼貌。但楼主放宽心往好处想也许他是想提醒行人注意安全并非恶意。
    在这里也想提醒一下大家,在没有红绿灯没有斑马线的丁字或十字路口过马路一定要特别特别小心,不但要注意直行车辆,还要注意转弯的车辆。很多人在这种路口过马路时只观察所在直行路上的车辆,却忽略另一边可能转弯过来的车辆,尤其是右转车辆。这点也是我自己开车后才体会到的。

  • #19

    层主对马路边行走和横穿马路的区别斯不斯有误解

  • #20

    没看懂什么人行道修到马路边遮阳的那个东西?那东西好像是市政理事会修的吧?和LTA没啥关系。。。

  • #21

    人可以过但要让车全新加坡那么多路口,都建斑马线,红绿灯,车就没法走了。而且斑马线本身也容易出事,容易造成不看车理所当然的问题。

    在视野清晰,没有什么安全隐患的问题下,行人可以利用安全的traffic gap,直接过马路。除非附近有规定的过马路设施,比如天桥,红绿灯,斑马线,不然都是可以直接过的。

    简而言之,没有crossing的情况下过马路,人要让车,但是车也得小心。

  • 笑天
    #22

    完全错误在没有交通标志的地方,行人(弱势方,按先后顺序)有最高路权,法律有规定的例外,如消防车,救护车在执行认为途中(需要鸣号)

  • qjkk
    #23

    这种路口不是应该找一个就近的有红绿灯或者有斑马线的地方再过马路吗?

  • TPMT
    #24

    请问层主的法律依据的出处?

  • #25

    Pedestrians, etc., not crossing at pedestrian crossing to yield to traffic“pedestrian crossing” means any part of a road, subway or bridge established for the use of a cyclist, mobility vehicle user, PMD rider or pedestrian crossing the road, and indicated as such by traffic signs, signals and road markings as shown in any of the diagrams in Part I of the Schedule;

    摘抄自road traffic act。帮你讲的简单点就是,除了红绿灯,斑马线,天桥,地下道这种规定的过马路设施,其他地方过马路,人都要yield to traffic

  • 笑天
    #26

    这个是解释啥是人行横道吧indicated as such by traffic signs, signals
    没有人行横道也没有交通标志怎么办?再查一下
    不过需要解释一下,俺的照不是本地考的,相信规则一样

  • 笑天
    #27

    好吧 坡县确实不一样以后不开车小心
    开车可以横冲直撞
    哈哈

  • 笑天
    #28

    Why don't pedestrians have right of way in Singapore?Singapore does have a unique situation on the roads. Unlike, say, the US where drivers in some areas (e.g. quiet suburban neighbourhoods) will stop to let pedestrians cross (even if it's jaywalking) or in much of the rest of Asia where pedestrians and vehicles alike wander onto the roads and pretty much avoid each other while accepting the right of either party to be there, pedestrians wait until cars have passed before they venture onto the road, and cars won't stop if they see someone waiting to cross. But there is an exception (see point 4 below).
    Singaporeans are:
    1. Impatient - given a choice to proceed or to wait, they would rather proceed.
    2. Kiasu - they hate being second, and want to be in front, and also prevent others from being in front.
    3. Bullies - given points 1. and 2. above, drivers will take advantage of a car versus pedestrian situation.
    4. Selectively rule-bound - Pedestrians DO have right of way, but only under well defined situations, like designated pedestrian crossings (zebra crossings, signalised crossings). But Singaporeans are curiously selective over which rules they follow, and which they don't. Since this is the only situation where pedestrians have right of way, and they are also kiasu and tend to bully, they then take the opportunity to turn the tables by strolling across the road casually.
    So don't expect right of way unless you are at a designated crossing. If it's any comfort, drivers behave the same way towards other drivers - impatient, kiasu and bullying behaviour within the bounds of the law.
    In places where drivers stop for pedestrians to cross, there is obviously a different mindset at work. Pedestrians are treated as vulnerable, and the strong (the one in the car) should help the weak. There is less impatience, and "kiasu" is an alien concept. I found it refreshing when I was in those quiet suburban neighbourhoods in the US. Try this in Singapore and you will get a confused look.

  • 笑天
    #29

    交警的回答Here is what I got from Traffic Police officer:
    ===================================
    Thank you for your email
    The two crossings shown in your photos is not a pedestrian crossing. As such, you would need to give way to motor vehicles before your cross. However, if a vehicle appear while you are crossing halfway, the vehicle should give way to you.
    I hope that the above clarifies. Thank you.
    ===================================
    So, this means in Singapore, vehicles have right-of-way over pedestrians, unless pedestrian crossing. This is surprising, and very dangerous basic expectation. But it explains why cars trying to squeeze in on my way when I walk or when I run.
    More vulnerable has right of way on the road is basic rule in other countries. Pedestrians has right over bicycles. Bicycles over cars... In Singapore, it is opposite. Car has right of way over pedestrian. Everybody, please be careful.

  • HX3000 楼主
    #30

    所以交警的回答是“如果行人已经开始穿越马路了,车就得让人先过”?
    我过那个小路口的时候,那辆车从远处开过来,根本没开左转向灯,所以我认为他是直行,没打算转弯。

  • #31

    楼主不如公布一下是哪个路口大家可看google街景 评论

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