拿EP来工作的妹子意外怀孕
taracheung • • 50507 次浏览妈妈拿ep在新加坡工作,不小心意外怀孕。妈妈想把小孩生下来,孩子的爸爸是新加坡人,但是孩子爸爸已婚,请问不结婚的情况下,小孩可以拿到新加坡护照吗?需要爸爸去做什么宣誓之类的吗?
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火前留名xmlzjxmlzj
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#2
应该不行这种非婚生子,估计不行吧。孩子办出生证时,要带父母双方的IC卡,还有结婚证。你没有结婚证,父亲这一栏就没法写上孩子爸爸的名字,也就没希望拿本地护照。
如果每个私生子都能那么容易随本地生父拿到新加坡护照的话,那新加坡不得乱套了,这不是赤裸裸地鼓励婚外恋吗!这种非婚生子,估计不行吧。孩子办出生证时,要带父母双方的IC卡,还有结婚证。你没有结婚证,父亲这一栏就没法写上孩子爸爸的名字,也就没希望拿本地护照。
如果每个私生子都能那么容易随本地生父拿到新加坡护照的话,那新加坡不得乱套了,这不是赤裸裸地鼓励婚外恋吗! -
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前排留名。。。消灭零字节消灭零字节
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楼主的妈妈好年轻のxmlzjxmlzj
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#6
我好像看懂了。。。。希望这个“妈妈“不是楼主自己楼主之前发帖问过ep美国生子的问题,大家可以配套阅读。不过那个贴里面,两人都是ep。这边是一个ep,一个坡籍
http://bbs.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=107_13460776楼主之前发帖问过ep美国生子的问题,大家可以配套阅读。不过那个贴里面,两人都是ep。这边是一个ep,一个坡籍
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#7
哈哈哈看回复笑尿看回复笑尿
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#8
请大家克制一下,能帮忙回答的就回,不能帮忙的也别站在道德高地谴责别人什么[…]的。天天撕看得心好累。的。天天撕看得心好累。
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#9
妈妈指的是孩子的妈妈不是lz的妈妈吧应该办不了出生证。我记得办出生证的时候是需要提供结婚证的。lz会问这个问题说明就算男方知道女方怀孕了也没打算离婚,还是以现有的家庭为重。光这点就不值得为他生下这个孩子,坚持生下来的话不仅毁了一个家庭也毁了自己的后半辈子。婚外生子的话,妈妈一个人带孩子会很辛苦。就算男方愿意对孩子负责,孩子和孩子妈妈也是没名没份。将来孩子大了一点就该问爸爸为什么不跟我们住在一起。再大一点懂事了明白是什么情况的话估计更不好受吧。希望那个妈妈能想清楚这个孩子到底要不要生,值不值得生。如果那个妈妈真的坚持一定要生,也只能遥祝了。应该办不了出生证。我记得办出生证的时候是需要提供结婚证的。lz会问这个问题说明就算男方知道女方怀孕了也没打算离婚,还是以现有的家庭为重。光这点就不值得为他生下这个孩子,坚持生下来的话不仅毁了一个家庭也毁了自己的后半辈子。婚外生子的话,妈妈一个人带孩子会很辛苦。就算男方愿意对孩子负责,孩子和孩子妈妈也是没名没份。将来孩子大了一点就该问爸爸为什么不跟我们住在一起。再大一点懂事了明白是什么情况的话估计更不好受吧。希望那个妈妈能想清楚这个孩子到底要不要生,值不值得生。如果那个妈妈真的坚持一定要生,也只能遥祝了。
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#10
第一页留名目测不可以 前同事坡男搞大了越南女朋友肚子 不愿意结婚 孩子是私生子 拿不到坡籍
拿不到完全可以理解 本来就不应该鼓励目测不可以 前同事坡男搞大了越南女朋友肚子 不愿意结婚 孩子是私生子 拿不到坡籍
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#11
强帖留名小毛驴直接小毛驴直接
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#12
恐怕没那么简单@南洋暴雪不割ep就不错了,如果男方老婆告起来恐怕是另一个说法了不割ep就不错了,如果男方老婆告起来恐怕是另一个说法了
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#13
内衣不容易穿好吗?怎么那么容易被推倒还被开竟然还......
只能说幼稚无知愚蠢了!这年头除了小学生都知道如何避孕吧?!不容易穿好吗?怎么那么容易被推倒还被开竟然还......
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#14
我觉得嫖男人也得看看他的底子吧……嫖男人也得看看他的底子吧……
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taracheung 楼主#15
回复.不是我妈妈 怀孕的女人可以被称为妈妈了吧不是我妈妈 怀孕的女人可以被称为妈妈了吧
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taracheung 楼主#16
回复网友首先不是一个人 ep情侣想结婚生子,另一个是婚外情,也不是我 我还没体验过怀孕的感觉 您多虑了首先不是一个人 ep情侣想结婚生子,另一个是婚外情,也不是我 我还没体验过怀孕的感觉 您多虑了
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taracheung 楼主#17
回复人渣请问我有骂你吗 你就不要脸的乱喷人 像你这种不要脸的乱喷粪真是丢死中国人的脸请问我有骂你吗 你就不要脸的乱喷人 像你这种不要脸的乱喷粪真是丢死中国人的脸
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#18
私生子是不可能拿到坡籍的
报生时要提供结婚证书
而且也没有继承遗产的quanli
报生时要提供结婚证书
而且也没有继承遗产的quanli
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taracheung 楼主#19
而且主要是我做理财项目 国内有一些有钱的客户 还有被包养的 所以会遇到各种情感问题,再给顾客做财务咨询的时候不免会需要回答这些的 所以才在狮城帮问问大家主要是我做理财项目 国内有一些有钱的客户 还有被包养的 所以会遇到各种情感问题,再给顾客做财务咨询的时候不免会需要回答这些的 所以才在狮城帮问问大家
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taracheung 楼主#20
回复你主要是我做理财项目 国内有一些有钱的客户 还有被包养的 所以会遇到各种情感问题,再给顾客做财务咨询的时候不免会需要回答这些的 所以你看我问了很多关于移民 生子这些的 因为之前我也不了解这些 所以才在狮城帮问问大家主要是我做理财项目 国内有一些有钱的客户 还有被包养的 所以会遇到各种情感问题,再给顾客做财务咨询的时候不免会需要回答这些的 所以你看我问了很多关于移民 生子这些的 因为之前我也不了解这些 所以才在狮城帮问问大家
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taracheung 楼主#21
回复网友了解了 谢谢了解了 谢谢
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taracheung 楼主#22
就事论事我也是在狮城帮看到很多人撕逼 骂人,多积点口德不好么 在网上乱骂人的你说在生活中能是啥样 我真是好奇我也是在狮城帮看到很多人撕逼 骂人,多积点口德不好么 在网上乱骂人的你说在生活中能是啥样 我真是好奇
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taracheung 楼主#23
回复热心网友还有一个问题想咨询 女方怀孕后就算男方打算离婚应该也没这么快离吧 在新加坡据说离婚很困难呢?如果男方在得知女方怀孕之后,想和妻子离婚 娶她的话应该也来不及吧还有一个问题想咨询 女方怀孕后就算男方打算离婚应该也没这么快离吧 在新加坡据说离婚很困难呢?如果男方在得知女方怀孕之后,想和妻子离婚 娶她的话应该也来不及吧
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#24
,注意,请理性回复。任何其他骂人帖酌情顶格ban ID 处理
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#25
ICA有一个条例是对私生子女的以前有一个菲律宾女佣抢了女主人的老公,生了一个女儿,孩子到现在都没有新加坡护照。女佣和女儿到现在,十多年了,也没有拿到新加坡身份。
最近的是,一新加坡男的,娶2个中国女生,第一个老婆没离婚,后面有一个女儿没有国籍。老婆也拿不到身份。
ICA 不鼓励这种非婚生孩子。以前有一个菲律宾女佣抢了女主人的老公,生了一个女儿,孩子到现在都没有新加坡护照。女佣和女儿到现在,十多年了,也没有拿到新加坡身份。
最近的是,一新加坡男的,娶2个中国女生,第一个老婆没离婚,后面有一个女儿没有国籍。老婆也拿不到身份。
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这个太屌了我的理解是,这个女子首先是小三,其次已婚,然后怀了别人老公的孩子,现在还想生下来。为了什么?护照?我的世界观再次被猛烈撞击。如果是真爱,这种情况我也没有办法祝福。太颠覆了我的理解是,这个女子首先是小三,其次已婚,然后怀了别人老公的孩子,现在还想生下来。为了什么?护照?我的世界观再次被猛烈撞击。如果是真爱,这种情况我也没有办法祝福。太颠覆了
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后来男的离婚跟女佣结婚了婚后,女佣和女儿也没拿到新加坡身份,男的去世后,女佣和女儿连long term social visitor pass 也没有了。
女佣和女儿找了记者上了报纸都没有用。政府不给。
不要为了一个身份,做这样的事情,毁了别人的婚姻,也把自己和孩子害了,这样的感情不应该继续下去。婚后,女佣和女儿也没拿到新加坡身份,男的去世后,女佣和女儿连long term social visitor pass 也没有了。
女佣和女儿找了记者上了报纸都没有用。政府不给。
不要为了一个身份,做这样的事情,毁了别人的婚姻,也把自己和孩子害了,这样的感情不应该继续下去。 -
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给ica点个赞xmlzjxmlzj
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#29
不得不说政府干的漂亮政府干的漂亮
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taracheung 楼主#30
回复热心网友这个建议很中肯 但是我不知道应该不应该这样和客户实话实说 毕竟应该是已经怀孕了 才问到这些 难道劝她考虑流产?这个建议很中肯 但是我不知道应该不应该这样和客户实话实说 毕竟应该是已经怀孕了 才问到这些 难道劝她考虑流产?
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#31
现在小三好嚣张呀……还想拿国籍..应该会被遣送吧还想拿国籍..应该会被遣送吧
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#32
行只要在报生的时候,爸爸签名就可以了Nature Father
那个曹什么不是有个上海女孩, 坡县都认啊Nature Father
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#33
这个漂亮,就不应该鼓励这种情况
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#34
同给ica点赞点赞
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taracheung 楼主#36
回复网友..客户问题太多了 我整理整理应该可以出书了,十万个坡县为什么
主要是很多客户是中国人来新加坡做生意,有得的确有钱,有钱了就有这些乱七八糟的问题,也不会去咨询专业人士,在做理财规划的时候多多少少就会被问到
反正我的经验是真的不多,问到了我也不能胡说八道 想着网友人多 看看有没有好的建议可以给他们的。专业的理财计划我可以做,别的方面我也怕自己不懂,说不准 给人家误导~客户问题太多了 我整理整理应该可以出书了,十万个坡县为什么
主要是很多客户是中国人来新加坡做生意,有得的确有钱,有钱了就有这些乱七八糟的问题,也不会去咨询专业人士,在做理财规划的时候多多少少就会被问到
反正我的经验是真的不多,问到了我也不能胡说八道 想着网友人多 看看有没有好的建议可以给他们的。专业的理财计划我可以做,别的方面我也怕自己不懂,说不准 给人家误导~ -
#37
说是很久。。。真的想离也是很快的这贴有解释。。身边有人就是这样异地2年不到就离了
http://bbs.huasing.org/sForum/bbs.php?B=108_12544239这贴有解释。。身边有人就是这样异地2年不到就离了
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taracheung 楼主#38
异地两年不到算快的了吗已经 孩子十个月就出生了 现在离婚也不能在孩子出生之前搞完吧两年不到算快的了吗已经 孩子十个月就出生了 现在离婚也不能在孩子出生之前搞完吧
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#39
准确的信息,请看这里--法律LEGITIMACY ACT
(CHAPTER 162)
(Original Enactment: Ordinance 20 of 1934)
REVISED EDITION 1985
(30th March 1987)LEGITIMACY ACT
(CHAPTER 162)
(Original Enactment: Ordinance 20 of 1934)
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#40
另外lz你是做什么类型工作的呀 保险?我是做税务的 每次个税的时候也是超级多这种奇葩事情 私生子什么的不要太多 不过感情好的富豪也有我是做税务的 每次个税的时候也是超级多这种奇葩事情 私生子什么的不要太多 不过感情好的富豪也有
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#41
用客户的资料出书,是严重的不专业,没有职业道德的做法不要有这个想法不要有这个想法
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taracheung 楼主#42
只是随便说说不会的 我只是随便说说 而且我提问也没有透露客户任何信息不会的 我只是随便说说 而且我提问也没有透露客户任何信息
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#43
去海外生可以申请坡籍,需爸爸签字,ICA网站就有答案申请新加坡国籍的条件第四条:
Eligibility 里面最后一条:
Child born outside Singapore where at least one parent is a Singapore Citizen.
这种情况里的最后一条就是针对婚外私生子的:
An overseas-born minor (child) may be eligible for Singapore Citizenship by Descent under Article 122(1) of the Constitution of the Republic of Singapore, if his/her parents meet any of the following conditions:
Male Singapore citizen by Birth who has a lawful marriage at time of minor's birth
Male Singapore citizen by Registration who has a lawful marriage at time of minor's birth and minor does not acquire citizenship of the country he was born by reason of his birth in that country
Female Singapore citizen by Birth and minor born on or after 15 May 2004
Female Singapore citizen by Registration and minor born on or after 15 May 2004. Minor shall not acquire citizenship of the country he was born by reason of his birth in that country
Male (who has a lawful marriage at time of minor's birth) or Female Singapore citizen by Descent has to declare their residence period in Singapore. The application can only be accepted if the parent fulfils the requirements stipulated in the Annex.
链接:http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=132
又看了birth cert登记的条件,本地生报出生证必需要有结婚证,这也是为何非婚生子申请坡籍的情况只适用于海外出生(得选不需要结婚证就能登记出生证的地方啊),父母一方是公民的孩子。感觉新加坡男人在海外有情人甚至私生子的情况应该不罕见...新加坡缺孩子,估计不会让他们流落海外。申请新加坡国籍的条件第四条:
Eligibility 里面最后一条:
Child born outside Singapore where at least one parent is a Singapore Citizen.
这种情况里的最后一条就是针对婚外私生子的:
An overseas-born minor (child) may be eligible for Singapore Citizenship by Descent under Article 122(1) of the Constitution of the Republic of Singapore, if his/her parents meet any of the following conditions:
Male Singapore citizen by Birth who has a lawful marriage at time of minor's birth
Male Singapore citizen by Registration who has a lawful marriage at time of minor's birth and minor does not acquire citizenship of the country he was born by reason of his birth in that country
Female Singapore citizen by Birth and minor born on or after 15 May 2004
Female Singapore citizen by Registration and minor born on or after 15 May 2004. Minor shall not acquire citizenship of the country he was born by reason of his birth in that country
Male (who has a lawful marriage at time of minor's birth) or Female Singapore citizen by Descent has to declare their residence period in Singapore. The application can only be accepted if the parent fulfils the requirements stipulated in the Annex.
链接:http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=132
又看了birth cert登记的条件,本地生报出生证必需要有结婚证,这也是为何非婚生子申请坡籍的情况只适用于海外出生(得选不需要结婚证就能登记出生证的地方啊),父母一方是公民的孩子。感觉新加坡男人在海外有情人甚至私生子的情况应该不罕见...新加坡缺孩子,估计不会让他们流落海外。 -
#44
那个帖子的主贴有说明在新加坡离婚一般来说需要分居3年 或者 其他的条件。
帖子里也有说,真想离婚直接去跟律师声明已经分居三年。。3年就免了。。。前提是两人都得商量好。。在新加坡离婚一般来说需要分居3年 或者 其他的条件。
帖子里也有说,真想离婚直接去跟律师声明已经分居三年。。3年就免了。。。前提是两人都得商量好。。 -
taracheung 楼主#45
本来只是随便问问没想到这么多网友 热心解答 中国人还是很可爱的 我觉得这条建议我可以跟妹子说下 谢谢你啦没想到这么多网友 热心解答 中国人还是很可爱的 我觉得这条建议我可以跟妹子说下 谢谢你啦
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#46
希望我的理解没错,具体等法律方面专家来回复
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#47
一个案例A company director failed to convince the High Court that he should not have to help maintain an illegitimate child whom he fathered but never wanted.
The 53-year-old father of three, whose extramarital tryst with a sales director in the same company led to the child's birth, argued that he had disowned his offspring and should not be treated as a parent as he had no contact with the child.
But Senior Judge Kan Ting Chiu made it clear that, under the Women's Charter, the father had a duty as a parent to support the child. "To paraphrase the provision, a parent has a duty to maintain his or her children, whether they are legitimate or illegitimate," the judge said in judgment grounds released yesterday.
Lawyers said the case underlined the law on a putative father's obligations for maintenance and rules that intention is irrelevant, even if the child was begotten from a one-sided affair or a brief encounter, such as in a brothel.
The company director had claimed that his relationship with the woman had been purely sexual and that he had been outfoxed by her, as she sought to beget a child by him.
She countered that their relationship had been based on mutual affection and consent and that she loved him.
The man's lawyer, Mr Koh Tien Hua, argued in the High Court that common law and other statutes, such as the Constitution, treat the mother as the parent of an illegitimate child.
But the woman's lawyer, Ms Leong Pek Gan, referred the court to the Women's Charter.
The judge held that the Women's Charter "clearly contemplates" a man being regarded as a parent of an illegitimate child as well. He ruled that both parents were obliged to pay for the upkeep of the child and they should bear the financial burden equally.
"The norm should not be that parents contribute in proportion to their means because that will place unequal burdens on them for no good reason."
The judge found that although the woman earned a lower monthly salary of $5,200 compared with the man's monthly income of $14,075, there was no evidence she was unable to pay half the monthly $1,440 maintenance for the three-year-old boy.
To this end, he reduced the monthly sum to be paid by the father from $1,050 - set by a district judge in 2013 - to $720.
The 41-year-old woman is a divorcee with a five-year-old daughter and worked in the firm where the man owns a majority stake.
"I have never wanted this child and I didn't even plan for this," said the man in his testimony.A company director failed to convince the High Court that he should not have to help maintain an illegitimate child whom he fathered but never wanted.
The 53-year-old father of three, whose extramarital tryst with a sales director in the same company led to the child's birth, argued that he had disowned his offspring and should not be treated as a parent as he had no contact with the child.
But Senior Judge Kan Ting Chiu made it clear that, under the Women's Charter, the father had a duty as a parent to support the child. "To paraphrase the provision, a parent has a duty to maintain his or her children, whether they are legitimate or illegitimate," the judge said in judgment grounds released yesterday.
Lawyers said the case underlined the law on a putative father's obligations for maintenance and rules that intention is irrelevant, even if the child was begotten from a one-sided affair or a brief encounter, such as in a brothel.
The company director had claimed that his relationship with the woman had been purely sexual and that he had been outfoxed by her, as she sought to beget a child by him.
She countered that their relationship had been based on mutual affection and consent and that she loved him.
The man's lawyer, Mr Koh Tien Hua, argued in the High Court that common law and other statutes, such as the Constitution, treat the mother as the parent of an illegitimate child.
But the woman's lawyer, Ms Leong Pek Gan, referred the court to the Women's Charter.
The judge held that the Women's Charter "clearly contemplates" a man being regarded as a parent of an illegitimate child as well. He ruled that both parents were obliged to pay for the upkeep of the child and they should bear the financial burden equally.
"The norm should not be that parents contribute in proportion to their means because that will place unequal burdens on them for no good reason."
The judge found that although the woman earned a lower monthly salary of $5,200 compared with the man's monthly income of $14,075, there was no evidence she was unable to pay half the monthly $1,440 maintenance for the three-year-old boy.
To this end, he reduced the monthly sum to be paid by the father from $1,050 - set by a district judge in 2013 - to $720.
The 41-year-old woman is a divorcee with a five-year-old daughter and worked in the firm where the man owns a majority stake.
"I have never wanted this child and I didn't even plan for this," said the man in his testimony. -
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我来说下我的意见吧告诉你客户,国内那种小三以生子要挟男人和原配离婚的手段在新加坡玩不转的,国情不一样。新加坡离婚老困难了。告诉你客户,国内那种小三以生子要挟男人和原配离婚的手段在新加坡玩不转的,国情不一样。新加坡离婚老困难了。
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taracheung 楼主#49
孩子爸爸本身就想离婚好像不是这个女的怀孕威胁,我听她的意思是男方本身就想离婚 但是应该怕是在小孩出生之前不能办理完离婚手续 应该没这么快 我也不敢乱出主意 毕竟小孩也是一条命好像不是这个女的怀孕威胁,我听她的意思是男方本身就想离婚 但是应该怕是在小孩出生之前不能办理完离婚手续 应该没这么快 我也不敢乱出主意 毕竟小孩也是一条命
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一个例子Q: Anyone know how can my child be a SC/PR if i not marriage to the child mother?
I am a Singaporean,mother of the child is from Vietnam..
A: If the child's parents are listed, e.g., you name is on the Birth Certificate, (whether you are/were married to the woman or not) and the child was born in Singapore, then the child is Singaporean by birth. Full Stop. If it's a boy, then the boy is liable for NS as well, just like any other citizen. If the birth was not registered in the mother's home country, then the child will not be allowed to stay there with the mother, should she split and leave the child with the father (It does happen).
各位大侠,感情规感情, 感觉规感觉,原则是原则,法律是法律. 一个基本点就是: 婚生和非婚生的孩子, 有相同的法律地位和权利, 不应由其父母的主观原因受到影响. 可以惩罚父或母, 但不是惩罚孩子.Q: Anyone know how can my child be a SC/PR if i not marriage to the child mother?
I am a Singaporean,mother of the child is from Vietnam..
A: If the child's parents are listed, e.g., you name is on the Birth Certificate, (whether you are/were married to the woman or not) and the child was born in Singapore, then the child is Singaporean by birth. Full Stop. If it's a boy, then the boy is liable for NS as well, just like any other citizen. If the birth was not registered in the mother's home country, then the child will not be allowed to stay there with the mother, should she split and leave the child with the father (It does happen).
各位大侠,感情规感情, 感觉规感觉,原则是原则,法律是法律. 一个基本点就是: 婚生和非婚生的孩子, 有相同的法律地位和权利, 不应由其父母的主观原因受到影响. 可以惩罚父或母, 但不是惩罚孩子. -
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亲身体会, 我的孩子们报生时, 没有一个看了结婚证的本地生, 本地报生, 只看双方的IC --那是10多年前了本地生, 本地报生, 只看双方的IC --那是10多年前了