所以你懂的?!
也许,今晚又是一轮腥风血雨 -美国国会已经介入,大戏开场
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WSB打悲情牌,全球刷屏!一封WSB散户的公开信An Open Letter to Melvin Capital, CNBC, Boomers, and WSB
I was in my early teens during the '08 crisis. I vividly remember the enormous repercussions that the reckless actions by those on Wall Street had in my personal life, and the lives of those close to me. I was fortunate - my parents were prudent and a little paranoid, and they had some food storage saved up. When that crisis hit our family, we were able to keep our little house, but we lived off of pancake mix, and powdered milk, and beans and rice for a year. Ever since then, my parents have kept a food storage, and they keep it updated and fresh.
Those close to me, my friends and extended family, were not nearly as fortunate. My aunt moved in with us and paid what little rent she could to my family while she tried to find any sort of work. Do you know what tomato soup made out of school cafeteria ketchup packets taste like? My friends got to find out. Almost a year after the crisis' low, my dad had stabilized our income stream and to help out others, he was hiring my friends' dads for odd house work. One of them built a new closet in our guest room. Another one did some landscaping in our backyard. I will forever be so proud of my parents, because in a time of need, even when I have no doubt money was still tight, they had the mindfulness and compassion to help out those who absolutely needed it.
To Melvin Capital: you stand for everything that I hated during that time. You're a firm who makes money off of exploiting a company and manipulating markets and media to your advantage. Your continued existence is a sharp reminder that the ones in charge of so much hardship during the '08 crisis were not punished. And your blatant disregard for the law, made obvious months ago through your (for the Melvin lawyers out there: alleged) illegal naked short selling and more recently your obscene market manipulation after hours shows that you haven't learned a single thing since '08. And why would you? Your ilk were bailed out and rewarded for terrible and illegal financial decisions that negatively changed the lives of millions. I bought shares a few days ago. I dumped my savings into GME, paid my rent for this month with my credit card, and dumped my rent money into more GME (which for the people here at WSB, I would not recommend). And I'm holding. This is personal for me, and millions of others. You can drop the price of GME after hours $120, I'm not going anywhere. You can pay for thousands of reddit bots, I'm holding. You can get every mainstream media outlet to demonize us, I don't care. I'm making this as painful as I can for you.
To CNBC: you must realize your short term gains through promoting institutions' agenda is just that - short term. Your staple audience will soon become too old to care, and the millions of us, not just at WSB but every person affected by the '08 crash that's now paying attention to GME, are going to remember how you stuck up for the firms that ruined so many of us, and tried to tear down the little guys. I know for sure I'll remember this. In response, here is a list of CNBC sponsors and partners. They include, but are not limited to, IBM, Cisco, TMobile, JPMorgan, Oracle, and ZipRecruiter. Their parent company is NBCUniversal, owned by Comcast and GE.
To the boomers, and/or people close to that age, just now paying attention to these "millennial blog posts": you realize that, even if you weren't adversely effected by the '08 crash, your children and perhaps grandchildren most likely were? We're not enemies, we're on the same side. Stop listening to the media that's making us out to be market destroyers, and start rooting for us, because we have a once in a lifetime opportunity to punish the sort of people who caused so much pain and stress a decade ago, and we're taking that opportunity. Your children, your grandchildren, might have suffered as I described because of the institutions that we're fighting against. You really want to choose them, over your own family and friends? We're not asking you to risk your 401k or retirement fund on a single GME bet. We're just asking you to be understanding, supportive, and to not support the people that caused so much suffering a decade ago.
To WSB: you all are amazing. I imagine that I'm not the only one that this is personal for. I've read myself so many posts on what you guys went through during the '08 crash. Whether you're here for the gains, to stick it to the man as I am, or just to be part of a potentially market changing movement - thank you. Each and every one of you are the reason that we have this chance. I've never felt this optimistic about the future before. This is life changing amounts of money for so many of you, and to be part of a rare instance of a wealth distribution from the rich to the poor is just incredible. I love you all. -
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公开信全文翻译如下:我十几岁的时候正赶上2008年金融危机。我清楚地记得,华尔街那帮人毫无顾忌的行动给我个人和我身边人的生活带来了多大的影响。我是幸运的,我父母为人谨慎,而且有点疑神疑鬼,他们存了些食物。危机来袭的时候,我们家保住了自己的小屋子,就靠松饼粉、奶粉、豆子和米饭过活,熬了一年。打那以后,我父母一直在有存食物的习惯,而且更新存货,保证存的是新鲜食品。
但我周围的那些亲朋好友就没那么幸运了。我阿姨搬过来和我们住在一起,给我家付一点房租,那时候,她在外面拼命找一切能干的活。有人知道用学校食堂里的番茄酱料包做的那种番茄汤是什么味道吗?我的朋友们被迫尝过。危机最严重的时候过后将近一年,我父亲才稳定了我们一家的收入来源,来得及去帮别人渡过难关。他请了我朋友的父亲打零工,帮忙做家事。其中有个人给我家的客厅做了一个新的壁橱,还有个人给我家院子打理花草。我永远都为有这样的父母感到骄傲,因为即使是在我怀疑自家的钱还紧巴巴的时候,他们也能留意到那些最需要帮助的人,并且热情地伸出援手。
对于对冲基金Melvin Capital,我要说:你代表金融危机期间我仇恨的一切。你是一家靠剥削别家公司和操纵市场以及媒体赚钱的公司。你的继续存在就等于在深刻提醒那些要为08年危机制造的苦难负责的人,他们没有因为当年的所作所为受到惩罚。你明目张胆地罔顾法律,不论是几个月前赤裸裸的非法卖空(告诉你的律师这是指控),还是最近无耻的市场操纵,都显示出,08年以来,你没有吸取任何教训。为什么会针对你?因为你们那些华尔街的家伙做了可怕的非法金融决策,改变了几百万人的生活,带来恶劣后果,却得到救助和奖赏。几天前我买了股票,我把积蓄掏出来买了游戏驿站(GME)的股票,用信用卡付了这个月的房租,把原本付房租的钱用来买了更多的GME股票(我不建议WSB的用户们这么做)。我现在持有这些股票。这是我个人的决定,也是其他几百万人的决定。你可以几小时内把GME的股价打压到120美元,我不会逃的。你可以花钱买几千个reddit论坛的机器人干扰,可我就是要持有。你可以让所有的主流媒体把我们(散户)丑化成妖魔鬼怪,我不在乎。我要尽一切能力让你痛苦。
对CNBC,我要说:你必须意识到,给机构的计划日程做宣传只能让你短期获利,只是短期的。你的固定观众会很快越来越年老,年纪太老之后不会再管你怎样,而我们几百万人——不仅是WSB的用户,还包括所有受08年危机影响、并且现在关注着GME的人,都会记得你是怎样为那些摧毁我们很多人的公司代言,而且还企图打垮小人物。我确信,我会记得。这里有一个链接地址,整理了CNBC的赞助者和合作伙伴清单。他们包括但不限于IBM、思科、T-Mobile、摩根大通、甲骨文和ZipRecruiter。CNBC的母公司是NBCUniversal,而它是由Comcast和通用电气控股的。
对婴儿潮一代和/或接近那个年纪的人,请注意这些“千禧一代人的博客文章”:你们会意识到,即使你没有受到08年崩盘的负面影响,你们的儿女以及可能还有孙辈最有可能都是受害者。我们不是你们的敌人,我们是同一个阵营。不要听信那些媒体说我们破坏市场就来攻击我们。我们只是拥有了一生中难得一次的机会,可以惩罚那帮十年前制造那么多苦痛和压力的家伙,我们在把握这个机会。你们的儿孙可能就因为我们在奋起反抗的那些机构而遭受过我所说的那些苦难。为了自己家人和朋友着想,你们真的想选择支持那帮人吗?我们并不是要求你们拿自己的401K养老金账户或者退休基金冒险,去买一只游戏驿站的股票。我们只是请你们理解,表示支持,不要支援那些十年前造成如此苦难的人。
对WSB论坛的朋友,我要说:你们大家都很棒。我能猜想到,我不是唯一一个采取个人行动的人。我读过很多人的帖子,讲述了你们都在08年崩盘中经历了什么。无论你是为了牟利,还是像我这样坚持的“钉子户”,或者只是可能随着市场波动的潮流参与其中,我都表示感谢。你们每一个人都是我们拥有这个机会的原因。我以前从未这样对未来感到乐观。摆在你们很多人面前的是能改变人生的庞大资金。将富人手中的财富重新分配给穷人,这是一个罕见的实例,参与其中就已经是惊人之举。我爱你们大家。 -
医药法规 楼主#3
昨晚,散户被洗得好惨欲哭无泪
其实,可以怀疑背后有人操纵
散户还是炮灰啊
是不是可以设想:一个没有机构的市场,大家都是散户
本来机构就是吸了老百姓的血汗在玩啊
沐沐姐不也是吗?
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昨天也是盘前买了nok, bb还有nakdnakd还好,开盘涨到3.4。3快钱的时候全出了,赚个了快线100%,bb和nok开始还在涨,一会儿就开始跌了,套住了。希望今晚能出来。
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医药法规 楼主#5
应该可以了吧两党议员都出动了
不知道robinhood为啥要这么做,那是散户圣地啊
也许担心风险,不知道究竟怎么走啊
客观说起来,两边都有问题,做空机构吃相难看
可是gme也确实不值那么多啊
即使创业神童来了,也不值
也许散户背后是大佬,包括神童,钢铁侠和木木妹妹 -
医药法规 楼主#6
做空大佬要破产了, 卖了粑粑还钱

散户在逼空的时候,除了买入大量股票推高股价,同时又买入大量的看涨期权。近期几天的期权交易量已经远超去年总交易了。

文章《软银是怎样用Gamma把市场玩坏的》中已经解释了这个现象。不断推高的股价,让有大量负Gamma的做市商,不得不一直购买股票来对冲,这就形成了一种正反馈,让持有大量负Gamma的做市商互相伤害。
疯狂的散户,需要买股票来对冲负gamma的做市商,加上本来不多的流动性加上高涨的借股费率形成可怕的三连击。
上周五,GME任何一个到期日的期权最高执行价格都是60。本周29号到期的执行价格60的看涨期权上周五价格在10美金左右,这帮散户就挑着最虚值期权(OTM)去买,只有6000美金的散户如果买正股只能买100股,但是买600个期权,却撬动了60000股(600*100, 美股个股期权合约为100,即买一个合约即买了100个股票的期权)。 行权价为60 call 被买出了全场最大的未平仓量,按说平时股票本身波动不大的时候这类玩法并不能造成太大的影响,但是GME这种一天50%+的波动可苦了做市商。
不仅如此,周五的收盘价是65,很罕见的把股价拉到所有期权执行价以上,可以说这个情况比跟软银做对手盘还有惨! 因为拿着负gamma的这些做市商上已经没有了任何对冲手段,因为股价上涨理论上时没有封顶的,如果周一股票跳涨够大,做市商持有的这个负gamma敞口是可以让一家中型做市商破产。
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Nakd 不懂啥时可以解套
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医药法规 楼主#8
现在这种市场氛围,这样的机会,值不值得赌一把?


等等。。。。
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#9
风险在增大,盈利面在缩小已经过了好时机,不值得了
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医药法规 楼主#10
其实我已经下手了具体策略是:
卖远期put (收钱,风险也确定)
买近期put (付钱,风险确定)
近期靠下跌盈利
远期只要价格上涨或不动,就一定盈利(即使价格下跌,最大风险已经确定,不会再增加了)
想起来靠好像谱,等于空手套白狼? -
医药法规 楼主#11
接下来的工作就是除了少量BB,都是option,
看到哪个绿了,就close哪个, 红的就不管了
呵呵,收割季又到了 -
#12
期权看的是波动波动越小,盈利面越小。如增加杠杆,风险就越大。
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医药法规 楼主#13
大IV才好啊,卖得贵啊呵呵
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#14
下手了就贴个实盘吧。
具体买价,卖价,行权价,行权日,量是多少,有无母股
也好供观摩体会。
既然要争霸,就争得干脆利落点,坦荡点。在这方面,亿男的确做得比较好些。 -
医药法规 楼主#15
图都贴了啊
自己搜一下?
2月5号 12号 19号都有 咱可不是空喊, 拿假盘忽悠
贴图吧, 喷,说show off
不贴吧,也喷
真当免费资源啊 看了这个也学不会
要学,付费,包教包会,还现场演示, 呵呵呵呵
部分截图:有long 有short 有put 有call。。。好多哦

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医药法规 楼主#16
关于黑莓28号的交易
谁这么帖了呢?

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医药法规 楼主#17
最要紧的一点
所有这些,不用花一分钱
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#18
你想太多了1: 我没有喷。如果有,请指出。
2:我没兴趣学
只是觉得如果你和亿男要争霸,就坦荡地争,别扭扭捏捏地。
比如你说的策略:
别贴图了,就直接说你:
买了什么PUT,价位多少,行权价多少,行权日是哪天(举一个例子就好)
卖了什么PUT,价位多少,行权价多少,行权日是哪天(也举一个例子就好)
然后围观群众可以在行权日看看,到底是赚还是赔。
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非常同意。我学历不高,这样听得懂
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医药法规 楼主#20
我赚不赚钱不是问题的核心,核心是思路,是“渔”非“鱼”我已经贴了个零基础大嫂的实盘测试,每一天都有报告,而且可以看所有的交易记录
今年以来,其实我贴了不少,目的是表示一些对股市的操作和正确认识‘不是去猜测赌涨跌-这对于新手是很危险的
我相信以狮城帮儿的智力水平,通过这些帖子的零零碎碎拼凑起来,应该可以了解思路和具体操作
干嘛要拘泥于是不是赚了钱,或者赚了多少钱
我贴图,只是想说明我是真的在操作,而不是空喊和做梦 - 短线晚几分钟,就完全不同,甚至昨天,前天,上星期,去年-有什么意义啊
搞明白原理,思路,逻辑不好吗?
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医药法规 楼主#21
这样对你没有任何好处我也不需要证明我自己
大嫂的证明够不够?
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医药法规 楼主#22
你问多少put我现在有130多个open position
我承认,我不知道方向, 也不知道明天会涨还是跌
所以,我同时买涨和跌,行不行?
不同的时间close, 可不可以
不要求100%的胜率,反而是每周100%有亏到0的position
我想我已经说得太多了, 如果能理解,就理解吧-应该有用
如果不理解,一定要看赚了多少钱, 也可以, 这个为测试期权算法开的户口12月30号 入金 SGD20000,至今没动用,31号开始试验,过完年就发了了个纪实 ,图文并茂 - 还要怎么样呢?光喊-我赚了多少,比较有意义吗?
现在现金如下:-我是透明的


如果我说得太多,伤了各位的玻璃心, 抱歉
苦口婆心就是这个意思
不知好歹的大把存在,
完全不奇怪
以己之心,度人之腹,就是这样子
一是各位可以选择性忽略,跳过, 二是我可以完全不说就是
如果说俺口气,让各位不舒服。可以抱歉,却坚决不改 - 习惯了了,改不了
抱歉
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医药法规 楼主#23
总之,再说一句得罪人的话好多花心儿的思维模式,不适合入股市, 如果要硬入,一定是韭菜!
毫不奇怪
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医药法规 楼主#24
谁愿意?谁敢?谁贴过这么多私密信息啊?没关系, 我天天在家P好各种图
以备不时之需。。
就当我是骗各位的,好吧!
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医药法规 楼主#25
即使我告诉你,你依样画葫芦也不一定会赚钱
因为股票+期权,不是买进去,就死等到期,那么简单啊,情况是不断变化的,必须懂得怎么应对
还是搞清楚道理比较好
如果实在搞不清楚,就不要入坑,一边看看比较靠谱。
对波?
你说呢?
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naked我是之前就埋伏的毛股四毛多的买入价,盈利卖出以后,1.5又进去一次,3块出了,很lucky。后面不敢再进了。赚了两次够了,不能太贪。
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医药法规 楼主#27
来来来,这些几乎都是下完单就发的贴子假定一月二十九日结算 , 看看盈亏
http://bbs.huasing.net/sForum/bbs.php?B=147_14779567
http://bbs.huasing.net/sForum/bbs.php?B=147_14788464
http://bbs.huasing.net/sForum/bbs.php?B=147_14784173
http://bbs.huasing.net/sForum/bbs.php?B=147_14787143
http://bbs.huasing.net/sForum/bbs.php?B=147_14786550
http://bbs.huasing.net/sForum/bbs.php?B=147_14788079
http://bbs.huasing.net/sForum/bbs.php?B=147_14787334
连夜翻出来,各位有兴趣可以自己搜的, 还有不少漏网的
口说无凭, 马后炮? 什么脑子!到底谁才是马后炮?